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The Ultimate Natural Way To Open Any Girl , Simple n Works
Posted On 05/21/2009 12:08:39 by paython911

Hey guys sorry for not posting for a long time as i recently suffered a car crash and has been through hell lately LETS Go to the good stuff
THAT IS your base routine so you can build on it , every thing is changeable in that routine
I am a natural i never really studied what i do but i gave it some thoughts and i backward engineered it and here it is YOUR MOST BASIC NATURAL WAY

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THE STATE
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you will never succeed if you are not in the state BE LIKE THAT
1>HAPPY with POSITIVE ENERGY
2>RELAXED and comfortable in the inviroment
3>You walk and talk WITH A BIG SMILE ON YOUR FACE

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THE OPEN
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1>Trigger IOI by simply smiling to her or waving or any cool thing that you can do and suit the moment
2>with you positive state open her like that
"Excuse me OR sorry for interrupting " there is no sham in saying excuse me there is no weakness THIS IS JUST MANNERS and a way to get her attention to make sure she HEAR what you gonna say
"I was (sitting/walking) AND i saw you doing (something)" you can describe it or may not you have the choice
"AND i have to say that you are absoulotly stunning " SMILE some more and rise your voice a little when saying that she will feel so flirty some guys thier voices just collapse when flirting don'y be that guy you are confident and relaxed ,remember ?
you can introduce yourself after that but if you feel good and in the moment proceed like that

>>>>>>"You have the greatest( Hair/Eyes/Smile/style ) i ever saw in my life ummmm or actually today to be sincere" THAT is so funny if deliveried in the right way so just do it if you feel good and in the moment

THEN state your intent "so i decided that i've to come here and talk to you "
AND introduce yourself "My Name is ...... "
GUYS i rarely got down with this this is my way that i really trust USE IT trust me on that , the less materials the more fun and natural and flirty you can be
***be confident powerful and demand what you want in a relaxed carismatic manner

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The Transation
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you (and her) normally would not have time to build deep rapport so you should introduce small talk you actually done more than enough so you should feel comfortable and confident in your ability to get her digits
ask her like that : How is your day so far ? women actually have alot to talk about what happened in her day dig a little deep if you want and ask her what she is doing here? with who ? .....ETC
about 5:10 minutes BEFORE your small talk reach a dead end and you still had that possitive effect going in your favoure inside her head
proceed to the next step The Close

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The Close
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if you have someting interesting that gonna happen in your life tell her and invite her , give her the opportunity to share that great thing with you
" look i will set up an aweasome beach party and i will invite all of my friends next ..... why not you join us and if you want bring some friends with you ? "
JUST anything interesting would be cool and it reduces the presure of one on one date so it appeares that you all would hang out like friends so her Guard would be DOWN Very Happy
if you don't have anything intersting gonna happen in your life soon then do like that

"SO tell me what you do for fun " here you SUBTLY state that you expect her to give you something interesting or she will not be an interesting person in your mind , so the pressure will be on her ,Now guys you turned the tables
HER " ........." if you found something interesting in her talk that you can do with her ,good tell her like that
"wooow salsa class that is really great i was thinking about that latly so tell me about it is it really good ? "
IF YOU didn't find something cool in her talk so offer something
"did you ever try ,ice skating,hourse riding,....... "
HER : ........
"OK cool lets arrange some time so we can go together i am a < pro OR a beginner and i wanna get better> On it "
"Ah you have no idea how much fun you are missing , come on i will teach you how to .... i am totally in love with this"

THEN go for it that is pain and simple
"ok

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07/31/2009 09:47:54
Great stuff, for those who dont belive this can sweep a women off thier feet, TRY IT. I saw a guy one use a similar opener and actually had sex with the girl within 30 mins. (partly helped chnaged my beliefs which i wrote more about in lower down)
I got some other personal stoires of usuaing natural opners, but that 30 mins F close even though it wasent me had a freaking great impact on me.

If it this way doesnt work it doesnt mean its a bad opener, it means you dont belive you can do it. Direct and natural is the way to go.

I had been gaming for months on end, and i was getting better (got the blogs here to proove it) but the thing is, all the games and bullshit is a waste of time.

The key which cuased a chnaged in me, (i slpet with 7 girls in the first month alone after loosing my virginity, one of them was amaizngly hot like a 9 ) was not some routine, a new way to show value or whatever, it was the mere fact that I belived that girls want men, and they want me (long story how it just suddenly clicked). It seemed that i could just be me, real me, social me, and with those belives i could suddenly on a routine basis go out and come home with a girl.

Sure all the routines and games help you get used to the women, but at a certian piont, all you really need are those beliefs and THATS IT.
In the end NATURAL is the way to go. And once all those games are out of your head, somthing amazing happens, YOU Actually get interested and curious with the women your talking to instead of analyzing. And I notice they open up conversations a lot better because I listen to what theysay than any of the million routines I tried.

Keep the good stuff coming paython!


07/08/2009 16:43:29
Its true your state and sub-communication can bypass the actually words, and i occasionally open with sorry or excuse me to prove that point. But 99% of the time I will never lower my value like that. Think of your boss who comes is and starts spitting out the agenda for the day, the mans high value doesn't say sorry or excuse me, just starts imposing his frame of reality. The point here is habitually incorporating that which will improve yourself and your game in any situation. I don't care where your from our job is to learn how to read people and those who are intelligent understand and can adapt to different cultures and customs. Consequently its takes a lot of effort to appear effortless.


06/30/2009 21:27:20
i would probably never say sorry for interrupt when starting a set. This lowers your value and could be unattractive to girls. Men of higher value usually dont ask for a woman's approval before talking to them.


06/30/2009 18:35:36
The thing is the following, that is a good natural opener once you get an IOI from your target. It would also depend on the place where you are. Telling her she's "stunning" or that she has "the greatest( Hair/Eyes/Smile/style ) you ever saw in your life ummmm or actually today to be sincere" that i don't really agree. Why? Let me tell you why, if you deliver those lines to someone that's a 10, she knows that already. Women of beauty feels good about themselves. They know what they have and they know how to use it. If you tell a 10 she's stunning or lets put it this way, you simply compliment her on something. She already knows that and she's heard that from hundreds of guys every day of her life. :)


06/30/2009 06:10:52
Ha! Good natural game, you definitely have figured it out, because this very approach is explained and used in some of Ross Jeffries basic speed seduction. Inner game during attraction should always be happy relaxed and smiling, overall nonthreatening, The open is a textbook RJ gambit: I was sitting there and I saw you reading, and I wanted to come over and introduce myself and see what was behind all the pretty." He is more subtle in saying she is stunning and also does not say it directly, the indirect statement makes her go into her head and say, "Oh, he just said I was pretty, but he's not only here for that, he is looking to see what's inside me too."

The "You have the greatest hair/eyes/smile/style" works best if it is something that most guys have not commented on, like "Energy" or "Vibe" or "posture". Many HB9-10 react rolling their eyes when they hear something over and over. If you are working on 6-9 you will get a good result from this, or on a low self esteem 10.


"so i decided that i've to come here and talk to you "
AND introduce yourself "My Name is ...... "


This is all very good but for some new students very advanced. Because as one person mentioned, many people starting in pick up come from a place of the wrong energy and the wrong vibe, so starting out with these direct openers is difficult. I've been there and tried the advice of my natural friends and could never get it right and they just got frustrated with me. But when I learned the model and started with the canned lines and routines, I started seeing my energy and state naturally become that of a natural so that I could open directly from then on. The state is key to being able to use this opener. And your delivery explanations are right on. But some guys won't get it without some small successes first. Great post tho paython911


06/19/2009 06:55:13
@ treceletras
yeah man it's much harder to game here in Egypt coz of the moral restrictions and like that so i think and i am pretty sure of my way and game as it works so greatly here so i am confident that i can blow your mind if you see me in action in the western culture < i had a vacation in Canada and tested my game and it was just top notch like you will not believe >
And welcome to PUA GATHERING man and Ah your english is good as long as we can understand you :)
Paython


06/19/2009 06:49:53
@livetolay : My Whole idea is that if you used canned materials and eventually it would work you will gain confidence in those materials and ultimatly in their creator you will never have the satisfaction that you did this all by your self so the only way to gain the confidence is to try to be a natural , have loads of female friends so you get comfortable talking to them then if you wish you can sexually escalate whithin your social network , I HARDLY DESCRIBED THE APPROACH man so yes after this POST you will have loads of female friends with a desire to get to know that confidence alpha male in you so it would be much easier to escalate from there as the real keys for naturals are < confidence , pre-selection And sexual escalation > so this post will take you through the first TWO , all you have to learn next is how to properly sexually escalate that i will cover in a later post :)
Paython


06/18/2009 22:55:10
hi..
sarging in small countries is like fishing on your own toilet... for people inside that restrictions... gaming may be quite harder...

in relatively small countries 1-2 million people (YES im a third-world resident) gaming is difficult as hell cause most of the social ladder knows you through someone (THANKS FACEBOOK)...

in my case, i have developed a kind of game that involvesthe indirect method (mystery) alongside's deangelo's cocky funny.. the gimmmick is that i replace all canned material with what i call enviromental adpatation... (pre-stablished routines and negs with variables replaced by factors according to the current situation)..

i would gladly accept some feedback on this specially on this thread cause natural opening is related to my inquiries...

thanx and forgive my broken english cuz this ain]t my first language and this is my first post...

hope i find here an active community to sahre thoughts


06/08/2009 17:02:42
to me it seems like a great way to get some female friends but as the other dudes said a real PUA sweeps a girl off her feet. She won't be checking out other prospects if she's too busy chasing you ;)


05/31/2009 00:28:06

Hey Man , Thanks for the comment but i just have a few notices

1- i dun agree about the word PUA lets face it it's a word origanally generated form someone and some ppl who were socialy undeveloped that they had to go to some NLP tricks to succeed in dating and be popular in gineral , but after all a lot of them dun live the life style they dreamed

2-the majority of PUA'S dun have what they call innergame as they describe it if a girl got in a relationship with a PUA she will find that he have NOTHING to talk about coz he dun have a life he actually faked it from the start all his charm and attractive qualities will appeare in it's origin shape that if he dun have a life and he always was alone

3-AS for the result man i am a natural from EGYPT after all the morals and cultural differences i can have F-Close and One Night Stands anytime i want and that MEANS IT WORK and would work crazier in westren countries , so it just my way and works like you will not believe WITH NO TRICKS OR NLP ,,,, JUST MY PERSONALITY AND POPULARITY AND COMFIDENCE and this is the real game

I DIDNT include my full way of dating women just the basic staffs to make everyone begine wz it and get used to it first

again man this WORKS better if you really gained the confidence and popularity to aid it maybe NOT AT FIRST BUT IT'S THE ONLY WAY TO REALLY GAIN THOSE and not just FAKING IT till you make it stuff as after all it's really fake coz you did it using NLP and manuplations

PaYThoN ,




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