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Soap Opera. (FR)
Posted On 01/07/2009 04:37:14 by savil

I want people to read this, So ill keep it short.

Went out alone yesterday (second time, whoop). I hadent been sarging since before the x-mas vacations, so I thought my skills and techniques were going to be rusty. I did take me a while to get into my high energy state in which I like to approach, but other than that I didnt notice alot of difference.

I opened loads of sets, just loads. Didnt game them all, but did talk and met alot of good people (guys aswell). I used routines the girls fighting outside, the cube, and some typical negs. For the rest, I must admit, it was ALOT more natural than usual. The only thing I did different is I was being directive, not asking nor apologizing. Its supposed to show the alpa male in me.

The majority of the night , I was in the area before the bar, its not loud, and talking is alot easier.

I met a girl named Ira ( a 22 yr old russian HB 7- 7.5). Talked to her, ran the cube routine on her. I was dead on, she even said she was scared at piont i belive. I tried to go in for a kiss later on, after i moved her around the room. But she wasent having it. With the whole push pull, id move even further away when ever she didnt comply to what I wanted. I got her number, and siad we will meet on proper terms. She was giving out IOI's like they were free, she was really into me, but she claimed she was "carefull". Didnt matter, i shouldve learned by now, that kissing in a bar leads to nothing. Im glad she didnt accept. I had a feeling this was a solid solid number close.

Some time later, I met another girl named Christal. Talked, built comfort + attraction (it sounds almost easy, but i know its going alot more effortlessly than before. But I stick to the system). I ran the cube routine agian, I just love it, its so powerfull if done right with looking into thier eyes etc etc. I then in for the kiss line ("im trying so hard not to kiss you"). It has in the past most of the time lead to success but this time, it failed on the Ira girl and Christal girl.

In my defense both of them had thier shields up, like ALOT. Persistance paid off I guess. I got her number too. We were flirting touching etc etc.

The commet  i got from Christal was, not unless ive had  drink with him. She offered to buy me one, I was being fussy about the icecubes. Overall cocky comedy. Either way had a dirnk and went back to talking in the other area.

Ira comes into the room aswell, with her friend. I was kind of an awkward situation. Both girls werent facing each other, but i was getting kino from both, so I was gaming both of them at the same time. Stupidly I hoped they wouldent notice. 

They did. I heard their convo "did he talk about a cube with you too?". My mind was going nuts. Followed by another comment "he must be desprate". That coming from two girls who ar super into me. I shouldve had something smart to say, but i didnt prepare for it. I burst out into luaghter and turned around.

Russian Girl left. Her friend told me, she wanted to talk to you (when i gameing the other girl). Her friend did say shell be right back. I Whispered to her friend to make sure Christal wouldnet hear me. I said to tell her,"i dont want christal, i want her . end of it" Her good friend trusted me, and told me to be a gentleman. Which I honestly wouldve been if she hadent come back.

So fuck, russain girl left, shed be back. I went back to gameing Christal. She was stll into me, giving me IOI's. And she always was in my social space. Even wen I was having a smoke in the bathroom (it was a cold night outside), she kept on looking by the door if I was coming out. She offered to get me another drink, she went with another guy I had met whod tried getting her, but everytime he was talking, she was looking at me.  Either way she went to get my drink. It had been sometime.

Ira wasent back I called her.

I siad "Where are you? , " she then said somthing along the lines of "I dont want to see you, I cant trust you".  then I siad somthing like "cut the crap, I want to see you" (I was being directive).  This is where it got mixed signalish.

she said"I dont want to see you, Im on the 8th floor". Maybe it wasent that direct after each other, but she did menton those two things in the sentence.

I though, I dont want to seem needy, but what other option do I have. So i went to her appartment.

This is Where the soap opera begins. I didnt know which corridor on the 8th floor, but there she was waiting at the door saying "here". I told myself thats an IOI. I was nervous i didnt know what to expect. I sat down, she gave me a beer, wanted to feed me (normal But... She was pissed. Giving me lines like "I cant trust you, Ive been hurt in the passed". She went on about her ex, she almost started crying.

I tried to be sweet. but honestly. I still had it in the back of mind, I wanted her. I told her that aswell (following Zan Perrion's advice on not being afriad to show who you are). It go to the piont where i mentions lets just be friends. (She was on the verge of kicking me out).

For the next 2 hours I chilled with her, talked. I tried to built kino. I did everything I had learned, push pull, EVERYTHING.  She was still touching her hair constantly. She had no obejctions when i siad  i wanna kiss her, i want her. But she still didnt want me to get close. I didnt want to seem needy, so I adjusted my bodylanguage towards her.  It kept on coming back to "I dont trust you".

I need to learn how to seduce. I had two hours, I had tried everything. Even a "virgin routine". Yes there is one , I read it from some dutch MPUA.

It goes like (put short). You ask her about her fantasy. She explains etc. she will always ask, "how about you". Before you being, you say your not expeirenced, but you say, I alwaysed wondered....Then you into some story that will light her emotions. Somthing like, in the savana, in the moonlight. Around the animals etc etc. Theres more, but the whole routine is to in the end, get her to give you sex lessons.

It worked to some degree. At some piont she said"Ive never had a virgin". She was also impressed by my skill I showed at the bar she said (different story in the appartment, prettymuch unknown territory which i will learn).  So she casually toched me inbetween my legs, and her own saying "so this is somthing special for you". I was out of control of the situation, I had lost it. At this piont, I was lost. I WANT ROUTINES FOR THESE TYPES OF SITUATIONS. and we were smoking a jiont together so things that I couldve done now, I dint think of then.  I made a rule to myself some time ago, to not ejct yourself, until im told to "fuck off". But I was lost, I decided to leave.

I think she will remain as a friend, nothing more. Sweet girl, glad I met her. Left her place at around 5ish.  Ill give the Christal girl a call though

I need to learn some material, for seduction. Pickup itself, is more or less settled with girls which arent too much out of the ordinary.

A very good night, leaving me hungry to learn more. Im ready, for it. Any suggestions on what I could learn to help me out in this type of senario in the future?

Thanks for any help.

P.S , I really honestly TRIED to keep it short. Cant help it, sorry.

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01/08/2009 14:00:53

actually canceled it like an hour ago, a friend of mine was coming over (higher prioirty).



01/08/2009 13:54:02


savil wrote:
I simply set up a meeting with the other girl,
Christal. Thinking of it, tonight is gona be my first "date" (if you
call it one), in my life.

Sweet!



01/08/2009 08:02:29

Thanks both you guys. Theres alot of things I couldve done differently. It was a great learning expierece, and thanks paython for putting it all in a nice clean perspective of what was to happen. My biggest problem was (as Dulce said) I didnt take control of the situation making it difficult to go into those steps you mentioned.

On the bright side. I adjusted my phone game, to not actually "game" over the phone. I simply set up a meeting with the other girl, Christal. Thinking of it, tonight is gona be my first "date" (if you call it one), in my life.


one agian, I appreciate the comments.



01/08/2009 07:28:01

Hey Man what's up ?

i need you to remember one thing DONT concentrate on what they SAY , Focus on what they DO & ACT

she clearly was pissed and worked some shit testing on you but HEll man

1) waiting you in the door or even tell you the floor

2) touching you between your legs , touching her hair , dont mind when you say you want her or wanna kiss her -even when i dont like to TELL this-

MAN that's IOI like crazy BUT YOU HAD A FEW of what we can call mistakes

1)when you noticed her coming when you already was talking to the other girl if i were you i playfull call her name and introduce them to eachother , be flirty and playful be calm and confidence , something like "let me intoduce you the prettiest most intelligant girl her " and the other " and this is the cuttiest ,hottest most understanding girl " ,, that would be better in my point of view as you here can make them BOTH game you NOT shit testing you like they did you see what i mean

2)when you saw her in her apartment -in your situation- you fall i her world she had a negative energy and was dwelling on negative thought and statments doing more harm to the already weak situation if i were you i would simply let her take a little about that then move on as soon as possible , pretend nothing happend and you both have a nice conversation for the first time "build social proof with her through story telling that demonstarte DHV, then go for the rapport ask her about what her dreams and passions and say something like i know exactly why you love/interested in ..... and describe what you think that she feel when doing that if you faild at least she see you as someone trying to know her and if you did it good , man you are connected then move on to other and it would be better if you can relate your self to the story by describing a situation or something from the past ,THEN Break Rapport like a disagreement or a playfull tease to push yourself from the friend zone that too nice with her THEN begin the attraction simpily by Qualifying her or Making her do something for you anything BUT qualifying is much powerful

3)Finaly with my out most respect to who created that line " i want you" " i wanna kiss you " follow the natural way , get closer , deepen your voice , look in ger eyes llike she is the only thing matter use the trangel gazing if you want and while talking and connecting emotionaly with her then PAUSE , yes just PAUSE let the silence and tension build up then SMILE from your heart and simpily touch her hair so gently pushing and playing with it while you look at her eyes then GO for the kiss IF she accepted all of the above she will accept the kiss TRUST me , feel her if she is adventurouse go for long passionate kiss if not go for sweet short kiss BUT release first

from there it's all yours no guid lines for what comes next YOU is your only guid it maybe turn a one night stand or a relationship you call man

DO what i said if you meet her again like nothing bad happened earlier

Sorry for my english man its not my main so excuse me if i had some mistakes

Mohamed ,



01/07/2009 14:11:44

You know, i read this and think just how far you've come along.   I for one have never went out gamed by myself, EVER.  And you had two girls basically competing over you with no social proof.  They were shit testing hardcore, but they shit test because they are interested and want to see what you're made of, andd you NAILED IT!  They might talk with eachother but it doesnt matter what they say because they both know deep down that they are in competition with eachother.

You got back to her place, got shit tested more.  Built comfort and established credibility to the point where she was throwing herself on you, you might not agree with this but the signs were there.

The game or routines aren't going to make that final step easier.  Just take control of it, be comfortable and move in.   I'll be pretty direct here: YOU DID NOT LOSE IT, you ejected yourself. 

Getting to that final step can be hard. Its healthy, its natural. But its something only you can do for yourself.  Don't worry about what to do next or over analyze what is going to happen.  Just go with the flow and let it happen. It needs to be done!

Good job tho. I would hit it up with her again.  You left her in a high state of arrousal and she is going to want that back.




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