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LJBF, but still attracted to me. Deluded or true?


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Old 08-29-2010
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Default LJBF, but still attracted to me. Deluded or true?

here is a story about a spectacular attraction followed by the biggest clusterfuck any PUA can have. I’ve been seeing a girl for 4 months. Without a play by play account, I’ll say that in 3 years of being in the PUA community, she has had a peculiar effect on me that other girls haven’t. Mutual attraction was clear from the start. She’s a bright honours student (med) with strong Christian values (I’ve never dated a Christian girl before but she’s not religious, just extremely principled) – things have been progressing steadily.

2 weeks ago, she become distant. I realized it was something I said which she misinterpreted (details are not important at this stage). Suffice to say I said something unclear before I went on a 1 week trip and she misunderstood. (I'm not making excuses for her, but I realized I effed up the minute those words left my mouth)

We ended up having coffee. She said ‘let’s just be friends’ seemingly out of the blue. I turned into an AFC and instead of leaving, continued to linger and talk. Finally, after much goading she admitted– ‘You send me mixed signals and you seem so busy sometimes, I don’t want to ruin our friendship.’ (I work 60+ hour weeks, sleep 4-5 hours a night as a med student/ full time journalist but I could tell that wasn’t the whole issue.)

I replied that it wasn’t the case. That I hadn’t met a girl like her in a long time and it was stupid she couldn’t see how much I ‘fucking liked her’. It was a state of the union address that actually made her smile. For about an hour, everything was fixed.

But I was caught up in the honesty of our moment. I stupidly blurt out that- ‘when we just met, I was in a relationship with another girl. But it was an open relationship and I was honest about it. I wanted to give you and I a chance, so I ended things with this girl.’

Her eyes widened. She stopped in the middle of the street and just said – ‘I’m going home right now. This won't work.’

I responded–‘I broke up with this girl because it would have been wrong otherwise. But I don’t want to lead girls on when I know it’s going nowhere. It had less to do with you. I make my own choices.’

She seemed unconvinced but we ended spending the rest of the night together. I walk her home, holding hands, talking and laughing. But my relationship senses tell me something is not quite right. I say to her- ‘It can’t be that simple. You can’t go from not wanting a relationship, to suddenly being ok within the span of 4 hours. What else is there?’

She replies – ‘you’re right’

So we sat down on the curb in the dark and I wait for her to tell me. I wait. I wait. She steeples her fingers against mine and nestles her face into me. We sit for 2 hours and she can’t tell me. I become frustrated. After much hesitation she says – ‘I just want to be friends. There’s an issue I can’t bring up or talk to you about. But it’s a big one and we should just stay friends.’

I become the AFC again. Against all principles of PUA, I start to rationalize with her. I tell her that she’s willing to throw everything away with me just because she’s too stubborn. I say being friends will not work unless she can tell me whats wrong. She either tells me now, or I walk away for good. It’s her choice.

She curls up in my lap. She buries her face in my shoulder, and clutches my arm really tight with both her hands. Her breath started to jag. (This girl isn’t the type to show emotion easily.)

‘Finally she says, I can’t.’

I’m calm but I can tell I’m losing my cool. I get up and leave. But my heart is not convinced. Stupidly, I end up turning around and saying – ‘well then at least say good bye to me.’

She refuses to. I say – ‘is this your choice then? Say good bye to me so I can leave and we can end it now.’

‘So you want me to tell you to leave?’

I replied, ‘only if you mean it.’

She stays quiet. We repeat this dialogue.

Finally she says very unconvincingly – ‘go. Get away from my house then. Go.’ I drove off after that.

This doesn’t seem like the average – ‘LJBF because I have no attraction for you’ scenario. I’m not sure how to proceed and whether a freeze out would even be of help. I called up a f-buddy yesterday but wasn’t at all attracted to her and ended up wasting her time. I want to call Annie, but I know I can't. I've become a mess right now.

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I've been a long time lurker of this forum and have noticed your judicious opinions before. In short, I respect your opinions as a PUA.

Can you elaborate and share some insight? I'm looking to learn from my mistakes and not repeat these things in the future.

NOTE: I reread my first post and realized I did not explain the situation properly. What made her distant for 2 weeks was because I said something to her before I went away for an interstate work trip.

Basically, I said we needed to talk about our relationship. I was under the impression she was going away after med grad next year to practice at an overseas hospital. I said - 'we'll talk when I get back in a week'.

The truth is- she was never going away (I didn't know this).

But she took my words to meaning that I was hesitant and about to break up with her. So she admitted that in her mind I had already broken her heart. When I came back, she didn't answer my calls for a week. The first time we spoke, was the aforementioned evening in the post above. She too, was shocked when I told her the truth about my concerns, but it was like she refused to accept it- in her mind she had already ejected. I had inadvertently planted a seed of doubt in her mind.

I remember at one point I asked her - "are you afraid I'll hurt you?" and she nodded.

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I've been a long time lurker of this forum and have noticed your judicious opinions before. In short, I respect your opinions as a PUA.

Can you elaborate and share some insight? I'm looking to learn from my mistakes and not repeat these things in the future.

NOTE: I reread my first post and realized I did not explain the situation properly. What made her distant for 2 weeks was because I said something to her before I went away for an interstate work trip.

Basically, I said we needed to talk about our relationship. I was under the impression she was going away after med grad next year to practice at an overseas hospital. I said - 'we'll talk when I get back in a week'.

The truth is- she was never going away (I didn't know this).

But she took my words to meaning that I was hesitant and about to break up with her. So she admitted that in her mind I had already broken her heart. When I came back, she didn't answer my calls for a week. The first time we spoke, was the aforementioned evening in the post above. She too, was shocked when I told her the truth about my concerns, but it was like she refused to accept it- in her mind she had already ejected. I had inadvertently planted a seed of doubt in her mind.

I remember at one point I asked her - "are you afraid I'll hurt you?" and she nodded.
This now does the change the dynmanics while also confusing my brain a bit. I am doing my best to try to keep tonality out of my brain as I read because that means everything. You also sprung shit on her she didnt know about it IE the open relationship. I would not date someone who sprung that on me. Despite the fact what I do as an instructor I am still very loyal to any girl I date. That probably pushed her away pretty far. There is also something she is leaving out I'll be bet on it.

On a side note you were not an AFC you were honest. For those who knew my relationship with Jade Wolf it was many "afc" moments but it is what made her love me and me love her. Sometimes its ok. Being honest is also important.

If you want to TRY and save it you can TRY. For this give it about 2 weeks and leave her a note about how you feel. AFC move for some good for in my opinion. If you hear nothing you leave and be done with it.
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I'm interested in how AFC moments can further a relationship? I've tried to search the forums for any mention of your Jade Wolf woes, but found nothing.

As for my current situation, I've come to realize that I grew too attached to her and this made me very outcome dependent. If I'm ever to see this girl again, I can only do it once I don't 'want' her anymore, otherwise my frame will not have changed.

It feels very strange to 'break up' through a series of misunderstandings. I've always broken up due to differences of personality, but to part ways like this is very odd. I too, believe there is something else she is leaving out.
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I will link you to the thread, but I shall explain things. This was a dialog between her father and I. Miss Wolf was in a relationship we started dating. Normally I would never do such things, but in the case I did. In all honesty I would do it again. The posts end on a sad ending because at that point Miss Wolf and I got into a very big fight when I got into a relationship with someone else. Around this point her father stopped posting. Very soon Miss Wolf and I rekindled our friendship and she is truly my best friend more than anyone will understand. She is about the only one who understands how much I care, as though she wont always admit I know she deeply cares for me to. Now here is the thing I have never been friend zoned with her despite all of our issues. Part of the reason is because of the reason of stuff I wrote in my article on my site, and part of it is because of stuff I cant understand. There is a part to attraction no one will ever be able to explain, and in her and my case it's there. With Jade we are not dating now, but there is a good chance in the future if she was ever to become single. In reality in ended up such a great friendship I would not give it up for anything. There are ups and down as everything is. While we "dated" I took good care of her in a lot of AFC ways. I would pick up her up and bring her over sometimes, or I would drive her places. She would also do the same. I took her out a lot though she would never let me pay ocationally I would though. There have been many times when I would cook for her from scratch just to see the smile on her face. I still have a gift I've been waiting to give her that I worked on years ago, but never had anyone special enough to give it to. For now though as I said she is my best friend and at this time I have chosen to respect her relationship because of how much she means to me. Here are other lines that should be mention. I do date and I would never leave a girlfriend for her (as she would never leave her bf for me) but I do care the world for her. If you want this girl so bad you need to let her go for awhile. Jade and I did this for a time and we came back with an amazing friendship, though we didnt date after it, it gave us something amazing.

On your girl she is leaving something out 100% what it is... could be so many things... I used to always say other guy, which is possible but could be much more

here is the thread...
http://www.puagathering.com/forums/f...irl-when-1141/
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